Homegrown Converted to 700c with new alternate Hayes 22mm Adapter

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Homegrown Converted to 700c with new alternate Hayes 22mm Adapter

Hello All,

It's been awhile since I posted, but I'm trying to get back into shape and drop a few pounds so the Homegrown's are coming to my rescue.

I've found a few riding buddies and was tired of getting dropped because they're all on gravel bikes, so I decided to convert a Homegrown to gravel duty.

Stock 19" 1998 Bass Boat Blue with Hayes 22mm mount.  Threw on some 29er disc wheels with 700x35c tires and had plenty of clearance.  Next was fitting a rear caliper.  I wanted to use drop bars, so I began the hunt.  Ended up finding used Shimano hydraulic 2x11's.  That required the use of a Shimano caliper.  First tried the common A2Z adapter, but not even old IS mount XTR calipers wanted to fit.  Next tried a Magura IS mount caliper, but the lever and caliper didn't like each other with regards to fluid flow.  Lastly decided to go with a new style flat road caliper with a custom made adapter.

The adapter design was very simple and is an easy install.  Unfortunately for me was the cost to get a machine shop to make one ($145).  Oh well, small price to pay to get this fabulous frame updated with modern tech.  If anybody is interested in the .dwg file I will gladly share it for free.  If the cost to manufacture these could be reduced I would be selling them myself, but I havemy doubts that enough demand would exist.

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Very cool. Is that a 19" frame?

 

Jeff

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19” frame, yes.  I usually ride 17” frames for mountain, but the 19” is a better size for me as a road/gravel bike. 

The ugly post and seat were just what I threw on for the bike shops clamp holder to grip. I’ve goth both a thudbuster and/or USE SX suspension post for it. I’ve already re-routed the rear brake hose below the downtube for a cleaner look.

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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Makes me think about changing my 01 Limited to a gravel bike. What model levers are you using?

 

Jeff

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The levers are RS505 which are 2x11.  They were the cheapest I was able to find at the time of the build.  I paid $100 for the used pair without calipers.  The rear caliper was cheap IMO at $35 and I had the hose and front caliper, so not an issue there.  I haven't got to ride it yet due to work and freezing weather.

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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Nice job bikeric. Time to revisit a rear disc on my S20 Homegrown.

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Thanks Tailendcharlie.  I can send the Solidworks file to anybody that wants it.

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That file would be awesome. Is there a specific program to open it?

Cheers.

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I use SolidWorks at work, but can export it to whatever File type someone wishes.  STEP, DWG, SLDPRT, etc.

I've even considered 3D printing a solid version (no honeycomb internally) and seeing if it would last.  I wish we had purchased a 3D metal printer last year.  

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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3D printed some lock out knobs for Rockshox SID forks, fits the 02 thru 05. Came out pretty well and work great, but since I don't have a 3D printer I had to pay someone for the set-up and the printing.

Jeff

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2- 97 Project Underground thermoset

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Nice knobs.  I could print them for you for free as a one-off, (resale quantities however, would cost money for time/supplies), but I have limited color options.  Pretty much gray or white.

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Thanks, but I have about a dozen from when I had them printed before. I thought people would want them to replace the cracked ones from tightening the screws too tight or fior missing ones, but I have about a dozen sitting in a bag in my garage. The guy that printed them for me ended up being about $13 per knob and nobody wanted to pay that. My intent was to sell them for my cost but I guess that was too much. I have a lifetime supply now.

Jeff

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99- Homegrown Pro

01- Homegrown Factory Limited

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I'd love to try printing one of these adapters through Shapeways. 

 

@bikeric, mind sending me the file in one of the following types: DAE, OBJ, X3D, X3DB, X3DV, or WRL?

Also feel free to upload it to their site and charge a few bucks for doing the legwork.

Thanks!

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Hey @dyebhai, thanks for the Shapeways information.  I had never heard of that site.  I actually went on it, created an account, and ordered a seat clamp made out of steel that I have been holding off getting machined.  The local machine shops are quoting me $350 to make this darn tear-drop shaped seat collar for a NOS 2011 GT GTR carbon frame I mistakenly purchased without a seat clamp.  Those things are impossible to locate and are unique to the frame.  The 3D print charge was $55.50 to my door.

The only file type I could upload to Shapeways was .stl.  Send me a direct message with your email and I will be able to email you the .stl file free of charge!!  I may start uploading 3D files to Shapeways to make some spare change.

Thanks,

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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Thank you, sir!

 

 

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Very cool bikeric. U might have just saved my beloved frame!! You have pm. Thx!!

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The adapter also fits on Rocket 88 frames.

I have 2  aluminum examples sitting on my shelf.  I could also send anyone the 3D model so that you can have it printed in metal from various online marketers.  

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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Looks good! 

are those aluminum examples fully functional? Can I have one of them to get my bike working again? Happy to reimburse costs. 
 

also, dropped you a note about 3D model. 
 

looking forward! 

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Sent @bikeric a PM, if anyone can share additional details for working examples 3d printed, or otherwise, please let me know (happy to cover costs). Otherwise, I'll see if he can share the shapeways file. 

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I sold my last machined aluminum adapter for Flat Road-Hayes 22mm.  I have a 3D printed version (bronze-steel) on order for test.  If it works just as well, I will get a few more as stock pieces to ship out when needed.  I'll update again after the printed version arrives.

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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Thanks to @bikeric for parting with the last machined alu adapter. It is a perfect fit for me and has allowed me to finish this 2001 Independent Fabrication Steel Deluxe

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I am definitely interested in at least two of them. I have the A2Z adaptor and a IS to post mount, but am very concerned about clearances. I sent an email before seeing this post. Let me know when you get some. 

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Also interested in one for my Schwinn rear

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Hwy would love to get a copy of the file to get one printed/machined as well.  So any help this would be appreciated!

steve

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I'll get a few more printed out.  Should be available in a few weeks.

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bikeric wrote:

I'll get a few more printed out.  Should be available in a few weeks.

If you have any extra I would appreciate one. Paypal or however you want payment.

 

Jeff

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97- Homegrown Factory

99- Homegrown Pro

01- Homegrown Factory Limited

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Cheers Bikeric, let me know when and I'll sort out payment with you.

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Me too!! 

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I'm getting 4 made. 2 will be silver plated steel, 1 gold plated steel and 1 stainless steel. Aluminum 3D printing is still too expensive to justify on such a small piece. Delivery to me will be Nov. 25 according to Sculpteo, so hold tight. I'll message here again when they come in.

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Thanks Bikeric

 

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I've got the 4 pieces in.  I guess I need to offer them up first come - first served.  Price on the picture includes shipping.  I prefer PayPal for payment.  Message me either directly or in this forum post with your color/material choice.

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"

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I will take a nickel plated. DM me. 

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I'll take the other nickel plated. Cheers, Rob.

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I guess that leave the gold one then?  I'll grab it just in case!
Thanks,
Steve

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OK.  I've got 3 requests for the Nickel Plated and 1 for the Gold plated.  So....would any of the Nickel Plated prefer the SS for $60?  The Nickle plated weigh 41 grams and the SS weighs 37 grams.

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All spoken for so quick.

RHoss - SS - Paid - Shipped

BLKHG2019 - NP - Paid - Shipped

Tailendcharlie - NP - Paid - Shipped

walktheline - GP - PM'ed

1996 HG Factory HT 17"  Black w/Red Darts / 1996 HG Factory HT 19" Bass Boat Blue / 1999 Rocket 88 17"