red frame is in excellent shape 21 in I beleive
blue frame I believe is a 19 in see pics for measurements
blue frame is an older model from what I can tell from this site with a custom paint job and I dont believe the badging on the head tube is correct . maybe somone made there own creation lol . the red frame is a newer mode land badging looks to be correct by looking on this site as well. both frames are super light .
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Thanks ya any additional info is definitely a great help
What price are you asking for the Blue 19" frame? I assume you're OK with shipping? If you prefer pick-up, where are you located?
Thanks,
1996 HG Factory HT 17" Black w/Red Darts / 1999 Rocket 88 17" / 1998 HG 17"
I can ship on your dime , I'm located in pensacola Florida make me a responsible offer . I was asking 125.00 each
$125 each is a very fair price, especially for the blue one IMO. If it was a 17" I would be jumping on it. Good luck with Sale.
1996 HG Factory HT 17" Black w/Red Darts / 1999 Rocket 88 17" / 1998 HG 17"
BBB one looks like a 97 Factory, except the top tube "S" decal is black stripe like an Underground. Plus a few extra decals and Chicage head badge.
I've got a Factory BBB 97 and it has the cable stops on top of the top tube versus on the side like your frame.
Jeff
94 Underground aluminum cracked frame
2- 97 Project Underground thermoset
97- Homegrown Factory
99- Homegrown Pro
01- Homegrown Factory Limited
The blue one is not a Factory IMO. It was a standard Homegrown repainted some time ago. The seatstays don't look tapered either. A sure fire answer would be a picture of the weld on the seatstay. Homegrown's are a single tube fully curved, but Factory frames are 2 seperate tubes (because they are tapered) that get welded together at the top. If its a Factory, the weld beads make a "T" shape with a bead lined up with the tire.
1996 HG Factory HT 17" Black w/Red Darts / 1999 Rocket 88 17" / 1998 HG 17"
I'll take a few more pics of the different areas ..... still need these gone . Anyone for a package deal ? Let me know .....
this site is awesome! Love all the knowledge
I just checked my 97 Factory and compared it to my son-in-law's HG. Never noticed that before.
Jeff
94 Underground aluminum cracked frame
2- 97 Project Underground thermoset
97- Homegrown Factory
99- Homegrown Pro
01- Homegrown Factory Limited
So what does the term non factory/factory actually mean ?
thanks in advance
The standard Homegrown's were made from straight gauge 6061 Aluminum. The Homegrown Factory's were made from Tapered Easton 7005 aluminum (from 1996-1998). I lost track of the changes when they went to ICBM headset design (1999 or 2000?). A 17" Homegrown Factory frame weighs about 3lbs, white the 17" Homegrown frame is about 3.5lbs. The Factory frames had a slightly cushier ride, but the brakes would really flex the seat stays in the rear. The Factory frames were the go-to choice for weight weenie builds. I had a complete Factory frame/bike with suspension fork, 3x8 drivetrain and knobby tires weighing in at 19lbs complete.
1996 HG Factory HT 17" Black w/Red Darts / 1999 Rocket 88 17" / 1998 HG 17"
Bikerec can you post a picture showing the difference, I'm looking a couple online, and it would be awesome to understand more clearly about then. thank you
As far as I know, Factory refers to the model " Homegrown Factory" versus a regular Homegrown frame. It was a higher end model frame with higher end components. I have no idea why schwinn used the term "Homegrown Factory". Somebody on this site probably knows.
Jeff
94 Underground aluminum cracked frame
2- 97 Project Underground thermoset
97- Homegrown Factory
99- Homegrown Pro
01- Homegrown Factory Limited
Gotchya, kinda what I was thinking......
Thanks for all the info
Both frames have been sold .