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  • #1672
    shadoc
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    Not sure about you, but I’ve always enjoyed a good read that’s related to something I’m interested in; never miss a chance to get into it. 

     

    This story begins at a college town in Southwest Missouri in the mid-90s, with a couple of po’ folk buddies who somehow came across a hole-in-the-wall bicycle shop. I remember we were still living in the dorms and were broke as shit, able to get by but always looking for a cheap thrill and therefore just working for the next whatever-came-our-way.  One weekend day we were down town touring the old markets for amusement and cheap furnishings for storage space. We came across the aforementioned shop that had a sign immediately announcing “Schwinn,” a blast from the past brand that I immediately associated with as my first bike back in homeland Colorado, a Stingray complete with ape-hangers, banana seat and training wheels.  But this shop had a Schwinn “mountain bike” on display in the window?  In Missouri, of all places?  The whole situation was, well, so mysterious.  “Bah,” we said, “let’s go in.”
     

    Historically neither us of had any real interest in searching out a bicycle shop, so I’m pretty sure I know exactly what happened next to me and my pal….. 

     

    We were seduced. 

     

    This joint would have been like an art museum, had everything not been for sale.  The showroom ceiling was HIGH creating a roomy space, light was bouncing everywhere so the frame colors erupted! The aroma was fresh and sterile, the floors polished clean.  The walls were covered with what could only be described as bike art, but you could only see it if you managed to break free from navigating through the treasures on high display, like mounted statues of hero generals.  New tires full of tread begging to be worn were everywhere and the staggering placement of the bikes was nothing less than choreographed.  

      

    Above that, two things: 
     

    1} The patrons. 
     

    Some customers were mesmorized as well, almost creating a panic (wait, what’s he looking at so intently?  Hurry up, I want to see but if I go over right now and it’s the only one, I might scare him into buying it!) Others were obviously serious about cycling and were there for a reason, which added credibility.  Subliminal thought process was something akin to “next New Year’s Resolution, man, I’m going to be just as serious as that guy, at the very least!” 
     

    2} The sounds. 
     

    Like most bike shops, the mechanics are right there exposed and wrenching on a different bike for a different reason, every day.  The dry Q&A on the floor could usually be dismissed by strolling close enough to eavesdrop on the mechanic’s banter, that’s really where it was at.  A variety of news and cycle gossip could be aired, anything from an upcoming event or new product, down to what NOT to do (or have done) to your bike.  Plus, the tools!  Watching a naked frame get draped in bling?  Kinda sexy. Hearing the spin of a fresh chain clicking through the gears and the cling of well-cared-for tools in action?  What a tease… 
     

    We were hooked.  A couple of dudes too young to bar-hop but who saw an opportunity for a cool recreation, as well as get around like a bad ass.  We started saving loose change, “donating” plasma, borrowing from student loans, taking old text books off of friend’s hands at semester end just to resell them.  Nothing too original, haha!  We made a religion of consistently making weekly rounds to the bike shop and so, we slowly were introduced to the unicorn… Yeah, the Homegrown popped in now and then.  Never for long.  Two years available to the public and it was already a legend, even back then.  We knew it was out of our league but we weren’t blind, when we got tired of looking at the HG pictures on the pamphlets and brochures, we would actually read what they had to say.  And they said pretty much all we wanted to know.  Probably a little different for everyone, but for us, the Homegrown literature read something like, “ THIS is a real mountain bike.  With it, rainbows can be ridden, molten lava traversed.  Anything else with two wheels may as well be a plastic Big Wheel with 2 sippy cup holders, one for you and one for your babysitter.  And that’s OK.  As far as you know.” 
     

    That’s really the only time I thought things were a little shady.  But, it could be all in my head. 
     

    Eventually, we were ready to purchase for the 96 models.  My buddy opted for a suspension, black .2 I think, with a yellow Judy.  I wanted a hard tail and came home with a .3 because I loved the color.  I could afford to upgrade, barely, but the components weren’t as important to me as was the sleeper brown paper bag skin of my chosen. 
     

    That’s it in a nutshell.   We had our bikes and knew our place.  Just out of reach from a tomato (which translated to Well Out Of Reach) but we had our connections and knew our business and we were ok with that!  So we went on to be wreckless and have fun and got dirty and experimented with the dangers of clipless vs gravity, played with shock settings, mastered balancing stairways and stop signs, always foreshadowing the inevitable trip back to the shop to collect decals and ponder the new HG paint schemes, livery and RockShox evolution… 
     

    And so it’s about time to revisit that old bike that has stayed with me through so many moves.  At this point, I don’t ride enough to justify dumping a lot of money, just want to freshen up a bit.  I had neglected for years, took on the occasional spin but nothing real regular; just this last summer threw about $50 in cheap tires and tubes plus a set of pedals at it, then hit the asphalt bike lanes on the work commute.  Front hub finally gave out and the OEM crankset teeth are about done, high torque would be bad news.  I thought heavily on just finding a new-to-me homegrown but at the end of the day, more enjoyment would be had showing some love to this young-at-heart Schwinn.

     

    This project is something of a build, I guess. But as any project goes, a sequence of events is gonna take place. Something most of us can identify with and appreciate: reaching for and grasping at, more NOT than often getting a grip on the elusive.  An old bike, not a Homegrown, but the spirit is there!

    #5344
    shadoc
    Member

    So last weekend I picked up a decent donor 17” Homegrown for $300, has XT components with a 9 speed cassette, Easton bar and seat post, decade old Fox F100 RLT with good rebound, Cane Creek headset (sealed bearing!!), newer Schwalbe Hans Dampfs on Magic XC 717s, Avid single digit 7 brakes.  To me, these are major upgrades!  And from what I can tell so far, everything is compatible (in this image, I had swapped the seat posts).

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    #5347
    shadoc
    Member

    Now, spoiler alert.

    I have very little experience with working on bicycles.  So, this past week, spent every day in one of the two LBSs near me, probing and carefully shopping.  In a sad way, I got lucky because one is closing it’s doors and tools were 40% off; since I’m taking everything down to the frame, I was able to pick up some “lower quality” tools (not Park) to do what I needed without a lot of buyers remorse, Craigslist doesn’t have a lot going on and I want to be selective vs going all out, so far so good.  I’ve been using my old TopPeak multi-tool for everything I can, good to have an understanding of what it’s capable of!  I also fashioned a work bench out of a found 14’ 2×4 hacked down to 8’, resting on two bar chairs (apartment dweller right now, no real shop space).

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    #5354
    shadoc
    Member

    Remember these surprise

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    #5357
    shadoc
    Member

    Faced a bit of a dilemma with the headsets.  Finally figured out a resolution, simply took a long 3/8 ratchet extension and a small ball-peen hammer I had to tap out the head sets, then a wooden mallet and some lithium grease helped tap the CC headset back onto my 96.  

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    #5360
    shadoc
    Member

    So, now we are down to the frames!  Other than the bottom bracket removal, I think the rebuild is on track.  Not too bad for a week.  Feels pretty good, actually!

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    #5363
    shadoc
    Member

    Got the old bottom bracket off, replaced a new sm-bb70 for it, that’s the good news.  The Fox steerer tube is a bit short,  which I didn’t think would be an issue because there were spacers on the HG donor tube.  Just enough to complicate things.  I suppose if I wanted to keep the Fox, I could have a machinest precicely shorten the head tube since there’s enough room away from the welds.  Will sleep on it.  Live and learn.

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    #5366
    Avatar phototomatoadmin
    Keymaster

    Cool story and progress pictures. Can you use a shorter stem?
    Do you remember the text of the error message you were getting. I can see it in the logs but it’s pretty ambiguous.

    #5367
    shadoc
    Member

    Don’t remember exact message, but suspect it has something to do with not using the default forum tools vs initially using the iPad keyboard functions (italics, emoticons, etc)?

    Hmm, thanks for the head’s up on the stem!  Did some research on stems and found out there are some brands out there that carry a lower stack height.  I took a measurement, looks like just over 28mm of available real estate (closeup is deceiving, the 10mm line is level with the lower headset).  Not a lot to work with but maybe?

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    #5370
    livernose
    Participant

    Cool story. Bummer about the steerer tube being short. I had the same issue with a frame of  mine and  just got another fork. Looking for a stem  with a shorter  stack height is another option. 

    #5372
    shadoc
    Member

    Thanks Jeff, I’d like to find a new stem since I’m not too high on what I have, found this Syntace Flatforce that has a 25-27mm stackheight (depending on which spec outline you read).  Kinda spendy though, ~$80 but at least it’s an option.  If anyone has any thoughts, give a shout!

    Shane

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    #5377
    livernose
    Participant

    Might be able to find another fork and sell that one to recoup some funds.

    #5378
    shadoc
    Member

    Progress update!  By chance came across a guy who had this XT (I believe a Shadow M77 9 spd) taking up space, so will start it out over the heavier M750.

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    #5381
    shadoc
    Member

    Also am going lose the front derailleur and run a 1×9, found a RaceFace 28t at the shop going out of business, got it for $10.  Sounds like ideally a 30t or 32t would be better, but the price was right!  Will likely cut the tabs off of crank later.

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    #5386
    shadoc
    Member

    Picked up new housing and cables.  Initially bought a road bike derailleur cable, took a bit of head scratching before I figured out it was a different animal, couldn’t understand if the wire end hooking screw was lost in technology!  It’s not.

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